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Region Track Meets

Posted: May 18th, 2018, 9:49 am
by NebraskaNorm
Anyone else want the eliminate the absurdity that is the current Region Track Meet qualification system?

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 18th, 2018, 10:12 am
by FBParent101
I guess my question would be what do you not like about it and how would you change it?

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 18th, 2018, 7:49 pm
by old faithful
The qualification system is OK. Someone will always dispute the present system but it seems to be better than anything else that's been tried. This year, as usual, there might have again been some problems ------- very short season and a few more dominant regions (like #3, #4, and #8), but there always will be. The state track meet will, as usual, field the state's best and some very good competition. There also will be some really outstanding efforts ------ based on region and season times/distances. Good luck to all the athletes!!!!!

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 21st, 2018, 3:29 pm
by NebraskaNorm
Collapse to the CC Region alignments or go to the AA system of qualification.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 22nd, 2018, 1:37 pm
by FBParent101
NebraskaNorm wrote:
May 21st, 2018, 3:29 pm
Collapse to the CC Region alignments or go to the AA system of qualification.
I don't like the idea of moving to XC Region alignments. With only 5 regions, you're looking at potentially very few participants in any single event. In Girls Class B for example, there are only two automatic qualifiers in the 400m Dash. If neither of those girls placed one or two at Regions, you'd only have 12 entrants total. You could potentially have as few as 10 entrants in an event. The current system gets you at least 16 entrants, which in my opinion is a much better number.

AA system is a much better option, but there could be some potential issues with implementing that into Class B.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 23rd, 2018, 11:55 am
by old faithful
It really is not "broke" so don't fix it. This could be a bad year to judge qualification, but in a normal season not many ever complain. We have quality entrants in the "A" State Meet. I would never want to go to cross country alignments or that system. We have far more participants and events in track.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: May 30th, 2018, 9:07 pm
by ringthebells
AA makes changes next year. Gone are the provisional and automatic qualifiers and in comes the top 24. I think it is a great step, but to really make a difference, there should be no limit to the number of competitors for each event from each school. Watertown has this happen almost every year where they have 4 or 5 of the top throwers but are only allowed to bring 3 to the state meet. Some slappy will be throwing that doesn't belong just because he doesn't go to Watertown. Take the top 24 no limit to a school. I'm not sure whether all should score or not, but that is a discussion for a different thread. If we have moved to sweet 16 in basketball, football, and volleyball to give the best teams a chance to compete then the same thing should be happening in track. If they are in the top 24, let them have the experience of competing at our highest level.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: June 8th, 2018, 1:27 pm
by NebraskaNorm
Old faithful, the system is broke. The region track meets have zero significance. It has turned into a 75% JV Meet.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: June 11th, 2018, 7:43 am
by FBParent101
NebraskaNorm wrote:
June 8th, 2018, 1:27 pm
Old faithful, the system is broke. The region track meets have zero significance. It has turned into a 75% JV Meet.
75% is an exaggeration, but I understand where you're coming from with this. There are a lot of coaches who do the enter/scratch method at Regions with their studs who have qualified by time so that they can try to get another boy or girl qualified. I think a big problem is that across the board it seems like Track teams are getting smaller, so there are less teams who feel that they have a chance to win the Region Meet. If you think you can win it, you're running your best kids in every event and trying for as many points as possible. If you don't have the kids to do it, you start picking and choosing to try to get kids qualified.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: June 11th, 2018, 6:13 pm
by old faithful
You're right, FBParent, but I sometimes wonder what's totally wrong with a system that qualifies the best athletes/teams anyway and sometimes still allows more kids the chance to qualify in a region meet? More kids get the chance for a state meet experience. Those who "just" qualify in a region meet may have a greater incentive to stay out for track or even place in a future state meet. What is so awful about that? The multi-class football system does basically the same thing, and we still continue to add classes.

Re: Region Track Meets

Posted: June 25th, 2018, 7:36 am
by NebraskaNorm
The region system rewards (or punishes) athletes based on geographic location. That is no way to qualify for a state meet. There has to be a minimum standard.